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The Fried Egg Golf Podcast

Mar 2020

Yolk with Doak - Episode 20: Sedge Valley, drivable par 4s and the evolution of restoration projects

Tom Doak returns to discuss a variety of topics with Andy Johnson. The pair talk about topographical maps, Tom's impressions on greens books, drivable par 4s, the evolution of restoration projects, and a quick update on his work at the upcoming Sand Valley course, Sedge Valley. They also get Tom's takes on some listener questions.

Mar 2020

School of Golf Architecture, Part 2 - Linksland with George Waters

The second part of our serialized introduction to course design profiles the first and most influential golf architect: the linksland. Coastal dunescapes gave the sport its first fields of play as well as its founding ethos. To learn more about how terrain has shaped the game, Garrett talks to George Waters (@gwatersgolf), the Manager of Green Section Education for the USGA and the author of the book Sand and Golf. Make sure to check out the accompanying post on The Fried Egg website; there you will find additional resources on the topic and outtakes from the interview with George.

Mar 2020

Superintendent Series - Episode 6: Josh Lewis

Josh Lewis, superintendent at Sharon Heights Golf and Country Club, joins Andy for the latest installment of our Superintendent Series, brought to you by the Toro Company. They talk about the impact COVID-19 has had on the turf industry before digging into Josh’s early days at Coos Bay, Bandon Dunes, Pasatiempo, and Chambers Bay. Follow Josh on Twitter @theturfyoda.

Mar 2020

Episode 175: Geoff Shackelford - COVID-19 and golf

Geoff Shackelford joins Andy to discuss the whirlwind of coronavirus news and the likely short- and long-term effects of the pandemic in golf.

Mar 2020

Fried Egg Stories, Episode 4 - Alligator Pit: The Making of TPC Sawgrass

In this installment of our audio documentary series, we go back to a time when the PGA Tour operated out of a four-bedroom home in Ponte Vedra Beach. Not far from that home was a flat expanse of swampy jungle. We tell the story of how commissioner Deane Beman and architect Pete Dye turned that land into a new kind of golf venue—and how the pros reacted when they competed on it for the first time. This episode features interviews with Beman, U.S. Open and Players champion Jerry Pate, architect Tom Doak, TPC Sawgrass project manager Vernon Kelly, and journalists Adam Schupak and Sean Martin. It includes music from Assaf Ayalon, Avi Goldfinger, Maya Johanna, Ian Post, and Swirling Ship (, as well as from Kevin McLeod ( Martin, “Leap of faith: Behind the Stadium Course’s wild debut at the 1982 Players Championship
Adam Schupak, Golf’s Driving Force (

Mar 2020

Episode 174: Michael Keiser Jr.

Michael Keiser Jr., the Managing Partner at Dream Golf, joins the podcast. The Keiser family and Dream Golf have been behind some of today's premier resorts, including Bandon, Sand Valley, and Cabot. Michael and Andy discuss working outside of golf, the failed Bandon Muni project, collaborating with some of today's greatest golf course architects, pushing the boundaries of an industry, and more. 

Mar 2020

School of Golf Architecture, Part 1 - Place with Blake Conant

Welcome to School of Golf Architecture, The Fried Egg’s serialized introduction to golf course design. In this first installment, Garrett digs into the notion of place. He speaks with architect and builder Blake Conant about “place-based design” and the various ways in which a golf course can cultivate a strong sense of place. Toward the end of the discussion, Blake leads Garrett to a realization about the importance of building and preserving unique places in the modern world.

Mar 2020

Episode 173: Nick Mackay - The business side of professional golf

Current Georgia State University Assistant Golf Coach and former Golf Agent Nick Mackay joins Andy to talk about his years as a golf agent. The two discuss what Nick looks for in young players, the intricacies of the business side of professional golf from sponsorship deals to costs of trying to "make it". The pair finish with a discussion on Patrick Reed's antics and the PGL. 

Feb 2020

Superintendent Series - Episode 5: Roger Null

Renowned golf course superintendent and architect Roger Null joins Andy for the latest installment in our Superintendent Series, brought to you by The Toro Company. Roger has nearly a half century of experience in the golf business, serving as a superintendent at Cedar Rapids CC and Old Warson CC, a design consultant at many courses in the Midwest, and even a general manager at Boone Valley GC. He is also an accomplished amateur player, with three GCSAA National Championships to his name (though Andy suspects the actual number is higher). Roger and Andy talk about how Roger got his start as a greenskeeper, what has changed in course maintenance in the past few decades, the difficulty of growing grass in St. Louis, how his work as an architect influenced his approach as a superintendent, and many other topics.

Feb 2020

Yolk with Doak - Episode 19: Pete Dye, Bandon vs. Scotland, and ways to make money as a golf architect

Our series with golf architect Tom Doak continues with another segment of Andy and Tom’s recent conversation in Traverse City, Michigan. They begin with a series of listener questions, covering topics like green-to-tee transitions, golf culture in Africa, the pros and cons of Bandon Dunes and Scotland as golf destinations, Tom’s ongoing links project in Ireland, his growing interesting in the business side of golf development, and the importance of not pretending every new thing is the best thing ever. A discussion of common misinterpretations of well-known golf architects leads to an extended reflection on Pete Dye. They talk about how Tom would split 10 rounds at Dye-designed courses, the Dye family’s willingness to share knowledge and help Tom jump-start his career, and Pete Dye’s influential insistence on studying a variety of far-flung courses.